GT-3 Manager 1.0.0?

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normen
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GT-3 Manager 1.0.0?

Hi,

I am trying to get the GT-3 Manager 1.1.0 to run on Mac High Sierra using WineSkin Winery and I am getting the following error message:

https://i.imgur.com/mU9tXWY.png

I was wondering if you still have version 1.0.0 so I could try that one out?

Thanks for your wonderful software,

Normen Hansen

Mark van den Berg
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Your error message says "GT-3 MANAGER - TIMERNONPLAYTIMER RECREATED ONLY TO BE ABLE TO COMPILE GS-10 MANAGER".
I don't understand this. GT-3 Manager is an editor for the BOSS GT-3 and GS-10 Manager is an editor for the BOSS GS-10: two different applications for two different hardware devices.
I don't know anything about WineSkin Winery, but it seems you have somehow managed to make WineSkin Winery confused.

Hope this helps,
   Mark.
 

normen
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Yeah well I didn't even download your GS-10 Manager app so maybe its a copy-pasted message in your code. When I start the same exe on a normal windows PC it is the GT-3 editor - so there.

WineSkin Winery is a Wine bottle manager for OSX, meanging windows emulation through wine - what you suggest on your homepage.

The GT-3 Manager page states I could find the old 1.0.0 download in the archive but that doesn't seem to be the case. Is the non-answer to the question if 1.0.0 is still available to be understood as a negative answer? Or can I try it with the 1.0.0 version?

Thanks,

Normen

Mark van den Berg
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My apologies for wrongly accusing WineSkin Winery: your error message turned out to be unrelated to WineSkin Winery.

In 2015 I revised MIDI communication in all my applications, but at the time I didn't get down to updating GS-10 Manager completely, so I created the notification for GS-10 Manager that you saw as a reminder to myself. Then a bit later I released GT-3 Manager 1.1.0, not realizing that it was in the same boat as GS-10 Manager, hence showed the notification.

I think I've corrected the problem now.
I've also fixed a few other nasty MIDI communication problems in GT-3 Manager, some of which probably already existed in 1.0.0, so 1.0.0 (which you were asking for) isn't recommendable either.
(By the way, when I removed 1.0.0 from the GT-3 webpage, I simply forgot to remove the link to the archive.)

Instead, please try the new GT-3 Manager 1.1.1 Beta 1, now available from the GT-3 page.
Besides the installer there's a portable version; I'm not sure which one is easiest in your situation.

Perhaps I should explain that I haven't had access to a GT-3 for the last five years: I wrote GT-3 Manager for an acquiantance who had one, but we're no longer in touch. Obviously this has rather limited my ability to test things, so I can only hope that no other gremlins have crept in over the years. Let me know if you encounter any further problems.

Mark.

normen
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Awesome, this version works right out of the box, even when using bluetooth MIDI in OSX. So in case theres others asking for an OSX version you can point them at Wineskin.

Thanks for the quick support, I sent out a donation.

Normen

Mark van den Berg
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Glad it's working for you.

Yes, it's good news that GT-3 Manager is now working under Wineskin on macOS.
The fact that nobody had reported the TIMERNONPLAYTIMER blunder in the 18 months after release of version 1.1.0 indicates that few people use GT-3 Manager.
So it would simply be uneconomical for me to port it to macOS, particularly with so many other applications to maintain.

Thanks very much for your generous donation!

Mark

normen
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I completely understand that, I was almost shocked that I found an editor for this antique piece of gear anyway :) Using it with wine works without any issues at all so thats completely fine. May I ask what API you used for the app in case theres issues in the future? (C++/Win32, .NET, ...?) Knowing that often helps with installing the right "winetricks" to make stuff work in case it doesn't.

The GT-3 is still rockin' it very nicely, we're using an Avid Eleven Rack and a GT-3 on stage and the GT-3, even though its almost 15 years older, stands up okay. Lately we set up a rack with all the gear inside and it became quite hard to access the GT-3 so I was looking into an editor. Years ago I made an environment in Logic to control the GT-3 but that was since long lost.

Anyway, thanks again for your software and your support!

Normen

Mark van den Berg
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GT-3 Manager is written in Delphi and uses Delphi's VCL, which is basically just a wrapper around Windows' native API collection.
So that may explain why it works "out of the box" in Wineskin Winery.

Yes, the GT-3 is a very sturdy piece of equipment, well able to handle beer spills and other stage accidents.
I once did a side-by-side comparison between the sounds of my friend's GT-3 and my own (desktop) GS-10 (which is 5 years younger): in general the GT-3 held its own admirably; if I remember correctly, only its Marshall amp emulations sounded a bit less exciting.
But overall the GT-3 is a very respectable device - I suppose we can call it "vintage" by now smiley.

Mark.

Mark van den Berg
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To avoid any further confusion, I've moved this topic to the General forum, since it isn't about the GS-10.

Mark van den Berg
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... and now I've moved it to the brand-new GT-3 forum.