BCR2000 pedal switch

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noembryo
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BCR2000 pedal switch

First of all (since this is my first post to this forum), thank you very much for your work and your time that you put in the BC Manager!
Its a very useful program and although I don't use my BCR2000 very often, when I do, its indispensable.
Now, to my post...

I'm trying to use one of the pedal switches that the BCR2000 has, to control a parameter on Pianoteq, and I have the following problem.
I press the pedal, nothing happens (the display says "on") - nothing changes to the controlled parameter
I release the pedal, a cc with value 0 is send (the display says "off") - nothing changes to the controlled parameter
I press the pedal, nothing happens (the display says "off") - nothing changes to the controlled parameter
I release the pedal, a cc with value 127 is send (the display says "on") - the controlled parameter is turned ON
I press the pedal, nothing happens (the display says "on") - nothing changes to the controlled parameter
I release the pedal, a cc with value 0 is send (the display says "off") - the controlled parameter is turned OFF
and so on...
The switch has 127 as Value 1, 0 as Value 2 and is in Toggle On mode.

I wonder if there is a way to change this to behave like this:
When I press the pedal, a cc with value 127 is send (the display says "on") - the controlled parameter should turn ON
When I release the pedal, a cc with value 0 is send (the display says "off") - the controlled parameter should turn OFF

I checked the settings of the controller, but I couldn't find anything to achieve this.
I also search in the forum with no luck.

TIA

Mark van den Berg
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You may want to read section 15.9 of "B-Control MIDI Implementation.pdf" ("BCMI"), which contains an in-depth discussion of the BCF/R2000's behavior when a "button" is pressed.
One important point explained in this section is that in "Toggle On" mode the BCF/R only sends a MIDI message when the "button" is pressed, not when it is released. So to get rid of all the "nothing happens" events that you describe, you have to set Mode to "Toggle Off" on the "Standard output" tab of the Button dialog box in BC Manager.

Another point is that the BCF and BCR have a global "Foot switch" setting. This is described in section 12.3 of BCMI.
Based on the behavior you describe, I suspect that your foot pedal needs a different setting than the current one. (In BC Manager you can set this via the "Global setup" dialog box, accessible from the "Global Setups" window.)

Hope this helps,
  Mark.

noembryo
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One important point explained in this section is that in "Toggle On" mode the BCF/R only sends a MIDI message when the "button" is pressed, not when it is released. So to get rid of all the "nothing happens" events that you describe, you have to set Mode to "Toggle Off" on the "Standard output" tab of the Button dialog box in BC Manager.

OK. Now I understood what the Toggle On/Off mode actually is...blush
Everything now works as expected..smiley
I know that I have to read the manual first, but perhaps it would be helpful to have some small tooltips over these modes.

Based on the behavior you describe, I suspect that your foot pedal needs a different setting than the current one.

Current mode is Auto, and it behaves OK once I set the right toggle mode.

Thank you, again!